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i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. let me make one more point -- >> let minimum answer the taxes thing for a moment. >> okay. >> mr. president? >> well, we've had this discussion before -- >> about the idea that in order to reduce the deficit, there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. now, governor romney has ruled out revenue. >> is that true? >> absolutely. >> completely? >> look, the revenue i get is by more people working getting higher pay, paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and how we balance the budget. but the idea of taxing people more, putting more people out of work, you'll never get there. you never balance the budget by raising taxes. spain spends 42% of their total economy on government. >> okay. >> we're now spending the 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> yeah, but, mr. president, you're
i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. let me make one more point -- >> let minimum answer the taxes thing for a moment. >> okay. >> mr. president? >> well, we've had this discussion before -- >> about the idea that in order to reduce the deficit, there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. now, governor romney has ruled out revenue. >> is that true? >> absolutely. >> completely?...
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they don't like the environment of what's happening. here's sam zell, listen to this. >> how the, quote, 1% or the 10%, the top earners moved ahead of everybody. i wonder if there's any correlation between while they were moving ahead, the rest of the government was subsidizing, subsidizing more and more people. i think they are disincentive vised by if you don't pay for health care, that's another thing you don't have to worry about. >> he sounds like he could be sitting at the mitt romney fundraiser. his disdain of the 47% is the same as mitt romney's. he's not the only algart complaining. leon cooperman, this hedge fund manager and former obama supporter, said this, you know, the largest and greatest country in the free world put a 47-year-old guy that never worked a day in his life and made him in charge of the free world. not totally different from taking adolph hitler in germany and making him in charge of germany because people were economically dissatisfied. you know, this is absolutely repulsive. what are these billionaires ups
they don't like the environment of what's happening. here's sam zell, listen to this. >> how the, quote, 1% or the 10%, the top earners moved ahead of everybody. i wonder if there's any correlation between while they were moving ahead, the rest of the government was subsidizing, subsidizing more and more people. i think they are disincentive vised by if you don't pay for health care, that's another thing you don't have to worry about. >> he sounds like he could be sitting at the...
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in a polarized environment. governor romney wants to be elected president because he wants to govern and get things done. he did that in massachusetts. he was able to work with a democratic legislature -- 87% of the state house and state senate in massachusetts, when he was the republican governor, were democrats. and yet they were able to cut taxes 19 times and get things done. they improved the bond rating for the state of massachusetts, by the way. they got an upgrade. we've seen a downgrade in the united states. they saw household incomes go up under governor romney's time in office by $5,000. household incomes have gone down by $4,300 under president obama. unemployment went down to 5.6% under governor romney in massachusetts. it's gone up to above 8% under president obama. he knows how to govern. and he knows how to lay out the principle, bring people together to achieve those goals in the legislative process, and that's what he's going to do here for america if he's elected. >> i understand that, but brie
in a polarized environment. governor romney wants to be elected president because he wants to govern and get things done. he did that in massachusetts. he was able to work with a democratic legislature -- 87% of the state house and state senate in massachusetts, when he was the republican governor, were democrats. and yet they were able to cut taxes 19 times and get things done. they improved the bond rating for the state of massachusetts, by the way. they got an upgrade. we've seen a downgrade...
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hear it a lot and around the network, all the other cable networks, we argue day-to-day in a war room environment. we know what each side is saying and we're always aware of the points and we know what romney is saying day-to-day. it seemed like all three people was not aware of what romney was saying day-to-day and one was well aware but he didn't want to bring it up. like nothing happened tonight in the world we were living in. >> so it was understandable that romney would be selective about which of his positions hold 'em size which he would conveniently forget and which he would, frankly, reverse in mid debate. but if you can do that, if you can get away with it, i understand why he did it. he was allowed to. >> he just said -- how does this appeal to the right wing 37 this is health care. the president says, if nothing else happens to this president we know for health care this is what he did. here's what the chamger said tonight -- if i'm elected we won't have to rephrase obama care. we'll have the kind of principals i put in place in my own state. what does that mean? >> it means from his
hear it a lot and around the network, all the other cable networks, we argue day-to-day in a war room environment. we know what each side is saying and we're always aware of the points and we know what romney is saying day-to-day. it seemed like all three people was not aware of what romney was saying day-to-day and one was well aware but he didn't want to bring it up. like nothing happened tonight in the world we were living in. >> so it was understandable that romney would be selective...
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technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. it is now 11:00 p.m. here on the east coast. 8:00 out west and you're watching msnbc's continuing coverage of the first presidential debate of the 2012 election. just about half an hour ago, president obama and republican challenger mitt romney wrapped up a 90-minute debate that covered not at all a wide range of topics. limited to domestic politics. we knew tonight but basically these guys talked about sunday morning beltway show favorites like "similarson bowls" and medicare and social security but left out a lot of other big domestic issues that have been major political issues including immigration, women's rights, specific
technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. it is now 11:00 p.m....
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. >> for both candidates, i want to know what to do to protect the environment from big corporates? green party. >> i have a question for romney, why not pro-life? >> he is pro-life. >> no, that women's abortions, taking away birth control -- >> oh, okay. pro-choice. >> sorry. >> those terms are shorthand anyway. >> i have a question for both candidates and i want to know what you're going to do for prisons, how to clear them out, how to lower costs that effect t affect the voters. >> do you have a question? >> i have a question for romney, gop platform states they have a moral obligation to uphold to support women who are faced with unwanted pregnancies, so since he's going to be cutting programs and sending everything back to the states, and taniff is going to be hurting and we have a lot of women who look to that when they have unwanted pregnancies. who's going to do it? is he going to step up and pay the bill? >> a lot about women's health care and a lot about student loan. everybody going to vote here? that's great. we'll be back with more "hardball." well, if it isn't mr. marg
. >> for both candidates, i want to know what to do to protect the environment from big corporates? green party. >> i have a question for romney, why not pro-life? >> he is pro-life. >> no, that women's abortions, taking away birth control -- >> oh, okay. pro-choice. >> sorry. >> those terms are shorthand anyway. >> i have a question for both candidates and i want to know what you're going to do for prisons, how to clear them out, how to lower...
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and we have voters who really care about the environment and the economy. and president obama, his policies really appeal to those voters a lot more. it's interesting that now it's a five-point lead because for about six months, up until a week or two ago, president obama had a narrow one to two-point le lead, so that really shows that president obama is breaking out in some of the key swing states like colorado. >> we shall all be watching tonight to see how things go down there in denver. diana degette, thank you, i appreciate it. >>> up next, painting denver pink. planned parenthood launches an anti romney blitz in colorado. i'm going to talk to the organization's president. >>> plus, bringing sexy back. politico's jonathan allen says biden is number two on the ticket, but number one in their hearts. how the v.p. is winning over seniors. and you can join our conversation on facebook. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring
and we have voters who really care about the environment and the economy. and president obama, his policies really appeal to those voters a lot more. it's interesting that now it's a five-point lead because for about six months, up until a week or two ago, president obama had a narrow one to two-point le lead, so that really shows that president obama is breaking out in some of the key swing states like colorado. >> we shall all be watching tonight to see how things go down there in...
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. >> the environment is such that every -- every step you take, every move you make, to quote sting, is -- everybody will be watching you. it's -- everything so focus group now. we slice and dice every nothing segments, walmart moms or office park dads or whatever and you have to get them here and you have to get them there. if you get caught up in that, i think, there is a danger of losing sight of a larger pitcher and losing yourself. and i think that's what people will be watching for tonight, they don't want a pitch at office park dads. they want -- they want the candidates to speak to the country. >> but i'm curious, michael, how many people do you think are watching, not asking for an exact number, i don't think you walk around counting folks, your idea on thoughts, how many you believe, what percentage are actually watching this debate tonight to have their minds changed or to pick a candidate or are folks watching to have an amen moment from the person they have already voted for perhaps in early voting or they plan to vote for? >> i think darn few are looking who are not alr
. >> the environment is such that every -- every step you take, every move you make, to quote sting, is -- everybody will be watching you. it's -- everything so focus group now. we slice and dice every nothing segments, walmart moms or office park dads or whatever and you have to get them here and you have to get them there. if you get caught up in that, i think, there is a danger of losing sight of a larger pitcher and losing yourself. and i think that's what people will be watching for...
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determine whether our security systems and procedures in benghazi were appropriate in light of the threat environment, whether those systems and procedures were properly implemented, and any lessons that may be relevant to our work around the world. the men and women who serve this country as diplomats deserve no less than a full and accurate accounting, wherever that leads. and i am committed to seeking that for them. >> secretary clinton under pressure and saying that there will be a full and accurate accounting but as you have pointed out ambassador hill, they need to speed this up. they can't be bureaucratic about this. they are being requested on the hill by next week and darrell issa has shown with fast and furious he's not going to let go of this. >> that's clear. they also have to be careful not to have any more mistakes or, you know, errors in these sort of narrative of what actually happened. i think they have to be really careful but my goodness, ambassador pickering managed i think some eight embassies. if there's one person who can know something about security, it's going to be ambassad
determine whether our security systems and procedures in benghazi were appropriate in light of the threat environment, whether those systems and procedures were properly implemented, and any lessons that may be relevant to our work around the world. the men and women who serve this country as diplomats deserve no less than a full and accurate accounting, wherever that leads. and i am committed to seeking that for them. >> secretary clinton under pressure and saying that there will be a...
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campaign laughed so much when the biden campaign was doing their -- debate prep in this perfectly sealed environment, they would look on tv and see sarah palin standing out by a stream in arizona or a rock and tree and these guys cannot be serious. >> it also -- they can't use the altitude defense that al gore was offering the president, the air was too thin up there, and he wasn't used to it. anyway, after the break, the national rifle association dips its toe into the attack ad waters taking on president obama, but while groups like the nra and their endorsements and dollars to the presidential campaign are donating their dollars to the presidential campaign, the more influential cash may be flowing down ballot. we will look at the big spenders next on "now." gecko (clearing throat) thank you, mr. speaker, uh, members of congress. in celebration of over 75 years of our government employees insurance company, or geico...as most of you know it. ...i propose savings for everyone! i'm talking hundreds here... and furthermore.. newcaster: breaking news. the gecko is demanding free pudding. and politica
campaign laughed so much when the biden campaign was doing their -- debate prep in this perfectly sealed environment, they would look on tv and see sarah palin standing out by a stream in arizona or a rock and tree and these guys cannot be serious. >> it also -- they can't use the altitude defense that al gore was offering the president, the air was too thin up there, and he wasn't used to it. anyway, after the break, the national rifle association dips its toe into the attack ad waters...
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president with something he's never said before or if he wants to save that stuff for a more controlled environment. that will tell us as much about his temperament and his strategy as it will about his plans. let me bring in lawrence o'donnell, chris. lawrence is in the spin room tonight, which i think has yet to begin to spin. lawrence, what do you think the expectations are on both sides tonight? >> reporter: well, rachel, in this room, there are a lot of $10,000 bets going on behind me about what the president is going to say tonight and what mitt romney is going to say tonight. i think the rules actually favor president obama because there are almost no rules. they are going to do two-minute statements, they're each going to get two minutes at the beginning of the subjects that jim leherer will introduce. and discussing not policing 30-second rebuttals and 60-second statements. none of that red light stuff with the clocks and all of that stuff. and when you're in mitt romney's position, where he's actually trying to hide some things, trying to hide the details of the deduction side of his tax
president with something he's never said before or if he wants to save that stuff for a more controlled environment. that will tell us as much about his temperament and his strategy as it will about his plans. let me bring in lawrence o'donnell, chris. lawrence is in the spin room tonight, which i think has yet to begin to spin. lawrence, what do you think the expectations are on both sides tonight? >> reporter: well, rachel, in this room, there are a lot of $10,000 bets going on behind...
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that is a target-rich environment and i think he should take the targets. >> what kind of vibe do you expect? >> aggressive biden. >> shameless plugs? >> i'm going to plug eli lake, all over this libya story. >> yes, he has. >> another one today on information that e-mails come paining about the security of the embassy there. he's a must read every day. >> security situation and all fingers point to the state department. >> i'm going to be original and plug dean progress at 150,000 -- 160,000 followers and hoping for to 0,000. >> twitter? >> yes. i'm on twitter. on twitter. >> help you with the plug. >> issues week of "the washington post" every day we're doing a big take-out two pages on the differences between the candidates on the issues. >> today is? >> economy. >> thank you very much. that's it for this edition of "the daily rundown. "tomorrow, four weeks until election day and another way to show off bells and whistles but we have something new. the new decision act. bye-bye. >>> this is your business travel forecast. chilly air will continue to sit there and with sunshine in th
that is a target-rich environment and i think he should take the targets. >> what kind of vibe do you expect? >> aggressive biden. >> shameless plugs? >> i'm going to plug eli lake, all over this libya story. >> yes, he has. >> another one today on information that e-mails come paining about the security of the embassy there. he's a must read every day. >> security situation and all fingers point to the state department. >> i'm going to be...
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there also was reading the assessments and understanding the threats he knew that this was a difficult environment to operate in as well. it's a horrible tragedy that took place and something that we hope and pray will never happen again but to make political hay and gain out of it, it really doesn't help support the efforts of our people. >> quickly i have to ask you, were you disappointed in the handling of -- ambassador rice came out with the information she had available at the time, congressman king of new york wanting her to resign, paul ryan said in a new interview he would not go that far. again, a lot of moving parts. were you disappointed in how this at least was handled if there is, in fact, now an opening for political gain or genuine questions here? >> well, i think that the attempt to make political gain out of this came forward before any facts were known. it's clear this is a strategy that's being pur sisued by the romney team and unfortunately they're continuing to look for more reasons to make an argument that president obama's foreign policy, which is hands down much more popula
there also was reading the assessments and understanding the threats he knew that this was a difficult environment to operate in as well. it's a horrible tragedy that took place and something that we hope and pray will never happen again but to make political hay and gain out of it, it really doesn't help support the efforts of our people. >> quickly i have to ask you, were you disappointed in the handling of -- ambassador rice came out with the information she had available at the time,...
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imhoff head of the environment committee a climate denialist and a republican senate which could dismantle the social contract and more. >> luke, seems like scott brown has a case of the mitts that he has to trade this difficult line between conservatives, the skoo ska leah question to me was really -- the answer was weird. he seemed to rattle off the names of supreme court justices as if to prove that he knew that they sat on the bench, but wants to appear as an independent but look, mitch mcconnell is going to be his boss if he gets re-elected, a "boston globe" poll says most voters think scott blown brown is heavily influenced by the gop, 41% think he's sometimes influenced and 37% think he's independent. >> goes back to how he got elected. originally his campaign in 2010 was the democratic -- not the democratic seat, not the kennedy seat, the people's seat. that appealed to people in massachusetts who wanted to shake things up as you saw in '06 and 2010 and around the country. what his issues will be how much will he be tied to mitch mcconnell in the gop leadership. when he came here i
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a significant number of troops listening to my military leadership to remain there to carry out an environment where the afghan military are capable of carrying out those responsibilities. and if that is not politically possible or militarily possible, then he would make plans for a withdrawal. >> you believe a few more years might change the dynamic? >> not a few more years. additional troops, additional supplies, additional kinds of efforts that we're succeeding, that were succeeding and not now. >> the lead story in "the new york times" talks about the mistake in faith in security as seen at the libyan mission. you saw david plouffe on "meet the press" still stumbling around, calling what happened an event and then a complex event. obviously, susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, coming under fire. peter king has said she should resign. do you agree with that? >> no, i don't. >> is that overstepping it? >> i think she was the messenger. she was the messenger. >> for people that aren't following this, what -- first of all, tell us what's offensive about what susan rice said five days afterwards.
a significant number of troops listening to my military leadership to remain there to carry out an environment where the afghan military are capable of carrying out those responsibilities. and if that is not politically possible or militarily possible, then he would make plans for a withdrawal. >> you believe a few more years might change the dynamic? >> not a few more years. additional troops, additional supplies, additional kinds of efforts that we're succeeding, that were...
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it's worse for the environment, so you normally don't sell it until october 31st. they're going to try to start early. you've got people spending 100 bucks to fill up their suvs. >> wow. all right. very good. thank you so much. we'll continue tomorrow. we appreciate it. we'll be right back on "morning joe." i love this time of year. it's like its own new beginning. it's all about change. the kids are going back to school, it's the perfect time to get back to you. to do something for yourself. a perfect time to join weight watchers. you spend your life taking care of others, why not take this time to take care of you? why not join weight watchers and start losing weight and feeling good, right now? you deserve it. you just gotta believe. [ female announcer ] join now for free. hurry offer ends october 20th. [ jennifer ] weight watchers. because it works. hurry offer ends october 20th. capella university understands back from rough economic times. employees are being forced to do more with less. and the need for capable leaders is greater than ever. when you see thes
it's worse for the environment, so you normally don't sell it until october 31st. they're going to try to start early. you've got people spending 100 bucks to fill up their suvs. >> wow. all right. very good. thank you so much. we'll continue tomorrow. we appreciate it. we'll be right back on "morning joe." i love this time of year. it's like its own new beginning. it's all about change. the kids are going back to school, it's the perfect time to get back to you. to do something...